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DAVE COURTNEY TALKING . . .
BY DAVE COURTNEY
You will never be able to
replace the quality of fighting doormen that you had back then with
what you have on the doors now, purely because it was an era when
fighting was popular, you know. ‘Are you looking at my pint?’ and
it would all go off. And the emphasis on the door and number-one
rule from the owner was ‘WIN!’ If you lost a fight on the door, the
manager would basically sack you and employ a better fighter. It
actually made doormen famous throughout the land for being good
fighters, e.g. Lenny McLean and Roy Shaw. Every town up and down
the UK had their minor celebrities. And it made tasty bastards – it
just made fucking tasty bastards. Back then, we would have 3,000
people in a nightclub, at The Hippodrome say. You would have two
doormen outside, one doorman inside and one doorman upstairs. That
was 750 people each. No fucking walkie-talkies or CCTV or that
shit. When it kicked off, we just fucking shouted, ‘HELP ME!’
Fighting is like any other contact sport –
including sex – in that you cannot get good at it unless you do it.
You cannot stop playing football for six months and come back being
as good as you were. Back then, the doormen were fighting four or
five times a night, five nights a week for fucking years. And if
you decided to kick off, you were in fucking trouble, because
doormen were fucking good fighters. But now your doorman has his
name and photograph and all his fucking details on a badge. If he
hits a punter back once – if he hits him back! – he is brought to
the police station by the owner, and he will never work again. So
please can some cunt tell me how you are supposed to get good at
something that you aren’t allowed to do. Right? If you hit someone
now, you are sacked and never allowed to work as a doorman again.
How the fuck is someone supposed to get good at something that they
aren’t allowed to do? This is fucking diabolical. You will never
replace the Lenny McLeans. And the way it’s covered now is to have
loads of doormen. You can’t just send one doorman in to sort things
out; now you have to send four fucking doormen in to get a fella
out! And now you have 28 fucking doormen in the same place that I
used to work in on my fucking own – 28 fucking doormen, all with
walkie-talkies and CCTV.
Society outside the nightclub might be more
violent, but inside it is no more violent. There is no way in the
world there are more fights in the nightclubs now than in my time.
There fucking aren’t. With all those cameras! Twenty years ago, we
fought every week – we had to. How the fucking hell do dickheads
standing ten-handed on the door think they are a proper door team.
If any one of them is banged once, they are dead. They’re just
dickheads on the buzz, suited up, but if they hit anyone, they will
never do the job again. How can they justify their fucking bravado?
You cannot be what we were back then – doormen became famous
worldwide. You will never have doormen taking on a pub full of
Arsenal supporters like you did back then. Some of these people
were – rightly so – legends. Whereas before there was one doorman
onto twenty, now it’s twenty doormen onto one.
And bodybuilding wasn’t as popular back then as it
is now. There were big ol’ lads, but they weren’t really
bodybuilders. Listen, if you are fucking frightened of spiders and
then you go away for two years, wear leotards, stick things in your
bum, look at yourself all the time in the mirror and come back, you
are still fucking scared of spiders! You just don’t look
like you are. It’s not like you’ve gone away for two years and
learned karate, unarmed combat, ju-jitsu – these bodybuilders have
actually worn leotards, looked in the mirror, popped a few pills
and . . . I am not saying that this is all
bodybuilders, but fucking most.
Take Lenny McLean, for instance: he was a fucking
tasty cunt at 16 stone, and that is well known. When he decided to
do all that bodybuilding and went up to 20 stone, he was a
fucking tasty cunt, because he was already a tasty cunt at
16 stone! If you are not already a good fighter and go away and
become 20 stone of meat, it won’t actually make you any better when
you tell some cunt to leave and he tells you to fuck off. (And you
are not allowed to hit anyone now, anyway.)
You can see naughtiness in a man; you can smell if
someone is capable of it. Say you are gay and you go into a
nightclub, you can spot another gay. If you are a heroin addict,
you can pick out someone else who uses straight away. And if you
are a naughty man, you can pick that out, too. You can pick up the
mannerisms.
They say the eyes are a window to the soul. I know
if someone is fucking handy from their eyes. I know if they can
hurt me or if I can beat them from their eyes – nine times out of
ten. Some of the naughtiest men I know look as though they couldn’t
harm a fly, but they have it in their eyes, and some of the
scariest looking fucking creatures you have ever seen in your life
are like fucking kids. When you go to work on the building site,
you wear overalls or a mask if you are a welder. As a doorman, you
are supposed to look scary.
Believe it or not, what is actually happening now
is that doormen are just policemen! You are not a proper doorman if
you are not allowed to hit anyone back. As a doorman now you are
someone who is going to arrest someone, take them down to the
police station, stand in court and point your finger at them, and
all that. And if you don’t point your finger and put them in prison
like the governor wants, you are sacked. And because they have
never experienced the old ways of the doormen, the new doormen of
today actually believe that this is the way it should be, that this
is really it, even though they are not allowed to hit anyone, not
once – ever. They have never experienced the old ways.
In the old days, doormen saved each other’s lives
three times last week. When there was a big fight and everyone used
ashtrays and glasses and fuck knows what, and you thought you had
cashed your chips in, you came out of that saving each other’s
necks – fuck me, you were fucking buzzing. How can that be the same
now? You cannot find that in any other walk of life, bar maybe in
the forces. The forces are so good at building on the strength of
companionship. (Although I am not too keen on their aftercare when
you leave. You grow as a unit and then one day you are out with
fucking nothing.) You will never find that anywhere else. You used
to be able to find that working the doors.
Having a good partner on the doors was essential,
because if you didn’t, you would get your fucking head kicked in.
He saved your life. It is a lot fucking easier to be a doorman now
when the governor has got 28 of you and you search everyone 20
fucking times even before the punters get in the club, and the club
is all camerad up. And if after all that the fucking bollocks does
go off, you are not allowed to do anything anyway.
The doorman today is only a doorman in name. Real
doormen are no more. They are all like special policemen now. It is
not like you can sort things out there and then in your own club
any more. If you catch someone with drugs, you can’t clip them
round the ear and throw them out. If it goes off now, you hold them
and call the fucking police. It doesn’t make fucking sense.
The business was not just about what you knew but
who you knew. There was no industry in the world like it. But not
today. Back in the old days, if you ran a firm, your firm was run
military style.
Nowadays, teachers are not allowed to tell you off.
If your mum gives you a smack, you can take her to court. What sort
of a world are we living in? Back in my time, if you did something
wrong at school, you got the cane, your mum told you off and your
dad gave you a beating. Now, if you do something wrong at school,
you get detention, and if you tell them to fuck off and don’t get
detention, then what? We should tell the fucking do-gooders to
shut the fuck up! Same in the clubs: if you tell someone to
leave and they tell you to fuck off knowing that it is all camerad
up, what the fuck do you do? Doormen are fucked, yet they still try
to drag a little fame and glory out of the job when it is just a
title. Again, a doorman is now just a police officer.
The government is turning the whole country into a
country of informants. This is the God’s honest truth. When this
country came out of the war era, the word on the street was ‘loose
lips sink ships’. And the whole fucking nation grew up with that
instilled in them – that was the number-one rule. The policemen at
the time knew their job was very hard, as everyone said, ‘I ain’t
saying nothing.’ And that came about purely because of the war
years, but in the last 40 years it’s all changed. The government
has, on purpose, made everyone informants. I paid policemen – I
know what I am talking about. Please believe me, I know I am
right. They made a conscious decision to make informing right. If
you said to me 20 fucking years ago that there would be a programme
on TV just for fucking grasses, I would have bet my life, or my
kids’ lives, that you were lying. But cleverly, on prime-time
television on every single station there are now trailers
advertising entertainment programmes for grassing people up. There
is a grass line if you are claiming the dole, a grass line if you
have a gun. They have made it so matter-of-fact. There is a thing
that if you know someone who has drunk too much and the cops catch
them, you get £500 for grassing them up. There are people who go
into a pub, buy their mates a few drinks and then grass them up.
There is even a grass line for other doormen to grass on their
mates, the people they work with. People grassing up their friends,
their mothers, their dads is fucking Hitler Youth stuff. The
government has turned it all around. There are no more Sherlock
Holmes policemen; coppers now just rely on fucking grasses.
They can take photos of you from the fucking moon,
and new cars have to have a tracker installed so that they know
where you are. Mark my words, one day every single car in the
country will be bugged – a fucking police bug so they know where
you are. There is no freedom of speech. The journalists have
freedom of speech, but the editor doesn’t. The journalist writes a
good story, but the editor says that it’s not allowed.
I get booked to do talks around the country, but
the police usually come and say if you have Dave Courtney talking,
cancel it or lose your licence. Then I get a call with some excuse
– the landlord’s nan’s died or something – but they don’t realise
how many calls I get. They think they have a good excuse to get out
of it, but I hear it every week. All the time Dave Courtney is
alive, living in the UK and not in prison, I am rubbing their faces
in it, and the police hate it.
Because of the situation nowadays, the smart
nightclub owner does this: he greases the authorities by having a
certain amount of doormen working legitimately and trying not to
beat anybody up on the premises; meanwhile, he employs another four
people at the bar, not in doormen attire. If someone does need a
fucking good kicking or the doormen are finding it hard to eject
him, then they pass the job off. If anyone says anything, the
unofficial doormen just leave. When the police and ambulance turn
up, it wasn’t the doormen.
Back in my day, the industry was a job centre for
‘doormen for hire’. It wasn’t just about the job doormen did for
five hours a night. If you wanted anything doing, a doorman would
do it – hired muscle, rent a thug. If you wanted your neighbours
smacked in the mouth or your girlfriend’s ex to be told to fuck
off, everyone knew someone who could do it, and doormen were the
people to go to. To go and get muscle and things just grew for me
that way. My personality is that I am easily approachable, and the
door industry was a massive job centre for me. People contacted me
from all over the world. Dave, can you get this? Dave, can you do
that? I would get calls from people with £10-million debts. It was
a job centre for naughty men. They were doormen for five or
six hours a night, but for twenty-four hours a day, seven days a
week, they were muscle for hire. If they beat people up in the
clubs six nights a week, then they would do it to your neighbour
for a grand. Now, this is all completely crushed. I am afraid the
poor old English person is brainwashed.
I have actually read an article in the newspaper
that Dave Courtney might be an informant, alongside my photograph!
When I saw it, I said, ‘What?’ When I went to court, I was found
not guilty and the coppers guilty. But they didn’t put that in the
paper! The power the government has over British subjects is
fucking frightening.
I really miss the old days. I actually bang one off
thinking about them. When my cock won’t get rock hard or something,
I don’t think of a bird, I think about the old days.
BIOGRAPHY OF
DAVE COURTNEY
According to his website, ex-London gangster Dave
Courtney has been shot and stabbed, had his nose bitten off and has
had to kill to stay alive. He has had long-standing friendships
with many notorious hard men including ‘Pretty Boy’ Roy Shaw, the
late Lenny McLean and the Krays. Amongst many other things, Dave
has managed nightclubs and run security and debt-collecting
companies – and he has been called ‘King of the Underworld’ and the
‘most feared man in Britain’. In 1995, Dave arranged security for
the funeral of Ronnie Kray.
Dave lives at Camelot Castle, south-east London,
and has had number-one best-sellers with The Ride’s Back On,
F**k the Ride, Stop the Ride I Want to Get Off,
Raving Lunacy, Heroes and Villains and Dodgy
Dave’s Little Black Book. Dave has also appeared in a few
films, including The Krays, Clubbing to Death, Six
Bend Trap and Hell to Pay.
Dave now does a lot of charity work for the
Prince’s Trust and is a patron of the children’s ADHD charity
Misunderstood.